Kristen Fired For Missing the Point

Kristen missed the point.  Not just the point of John & Craig's humour in the implementation of their commercial; or the point of the body wash being body wash not face cream; but also the point of Donald's dual boardroom (or is that more aptly the duel boardroom?)

Here is the perfect opportunity to go face to face with 3 at-risk players from the other team... the team that created the "veggie porn" as far off the mark from Dove's refreshing and soothing styles than almost anything could be.

They could have pointed to Magna's repeated loses, the team environment that cause a team member (Verna) to quit and Michael's behaviour in the last task.  They certainly couldn't have missed Bren's public chastisation of Michael's behaviour? 

Instead Kristen, Tana and Audrey chose to attack each other, as if Magna weren't even in the room and equally at risk of going home.  Even through there was significantly more supporting a Magna firing this round. When asked point blank, Audrey said she would fire Kristen before anyone on Magna's side. 

In the end, Donald had to look at the leaders.  Erin who stood up for her obviously chastened teammates, and Kristen who created an atmosphere of animosity. 

Kristen was fired because she missed the point of "team".

Comments

[sushichicken]

Dead on.

Ms. I I I I I have got to go.

I wonder if her boyfriend is a veggie porn director? ;)

[Steph]

not only was she fired for missing the point and not having a good commercial, but also being so, ohhhhhh whats a nice way to put it?? well you get the point, she was bragging about her boyfriend being a director, but also being like "this is my task, and im doing it myself." she even said on the show she was just letting tha people help only so theyd get outta her face. she was so confident about it and then when they were finished it was a horrible commercial. they both were. if i were not told it was sapossed to be a marathon in the commercial i would've never ever guessed it. would you?
~!~ Stephanie ( not stephanie myers :P )

She was so obnoxious! Go get directed by your boyfriend baby.

[Billy]

this is a rough season, imo. the college group is really inept. plus, love him or hate him, the only personality on their team just got fired last week when Danny was ax'd (deservedly, imo, for bringing into the boardroom someone who couldn't be fired).

last night's episode was the worst so far ... again imo. i thought trump fired the right person but he really focused his harshest criticism on the wrong reason. the whole 'retaining the team' thing was bs. knock-down, drag out fights are what have always been rewarded in Trump's boardroom and now he arbitrarily changes tack. I would have preferred if he were more consistent in that regard, although I actually believe that kristen deserved to get fired b/c her decision making screwed up the whole thing and lost whatever 'laughs' they were trying to get when they came up with the idea. then, her only argument in the boardroom that dealing with the models was the problem was an incredibly weak defense and left her as the only real option for getting fired from her team.

[Bob]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. And to top it all, yesterday I was just gonna say the same thing. But, you know, it's like you said. And don’t forget: it was the same before but I agree. Nothing is ever different so far, except for the new things you mentioned. What really matters is the essential. I always prefer when it's better. That's why I liked reading your comment. When you think about it, did you know if they're going to change to the same thing, or is it just going to stay different without changing every time? I wonder, because even if it's either one or the other, it's not easy to figure out which is it.

[Manasseh]

I thought it was an easy decision for Donald to make. Both teams failed. So he could not make a decision on who to fire based solely on failure. So the only logical thing left to look at was execution. Magna’s commercial came out the way Bren envisioned. Net Worth’s commercial was not the way John envisioned. So who’s to blame for that the most? Omorosa of course! Just kidding. Kristen is to blame. So she was fired.

P.S. This was the worst episode in the show’s history. Even worst than last week. I am sure things will get better when there are less candidates to focus on. Hopefully at that point I will be attached to someone and subsequently rooting for them.

[NapoleonTNT]

Kristen? Happy to see her go. She was loud mouthed and uncouth. You need couth, people.

I miss Danny. He was cool. A smart guy who was too much into group decisions and co-operation.

Michael is next. And the streets will fill with celebration and glee.

[Cletus]

Let's talk about the aprantice over the intarnet. Is that really someone writing this up here?

[Chris]

If you pay close attention to the very beginning of Episode 4 (as Michael and Stephanie are returning from The Boardroom and afterwards when
Bren has the words with Michael and he apologizes to The Team) you will see Kristen hanging out in The Suite with all the members of Magna. Totally unacceptable because this behavior sends a terrible message of disrespect and disloyalty to all the members of her own Team (Networth.) This reminded me of the old saying about no fraternizing with the enemy.Kristen had no business (no pun intended) being with The Magna members.Kristen should have been with Networth the entire time but instead she snubbed her own Team by hanging out with the opposing Team.The Magna members also should have known better and used better judgement by keeping Kristen out of there. The Networth members should mentioned this bad behavior to The Donald later on in The Boardroom.

[Chris]

When Kristen and Audrey were disagreeing in The Boardroom at the end of Episode 4, I noticed that Kristen showed none of the explosive,confrontational, white hot anger that Kristen had used priviously on Project Manager Brain McDowell when she flipped out on him in Episode 2.

[Hutch]

I think the Donald can't get any respect for his apprentices anymore. The show is not good, has been getting worse by the week. It seems like no one on both teams looks like a likely candidate for Trump's organization, like its' a set-up by the show's organizers. People on the street are dissing the teams, it almost seems like team members get actively avoided when they are being filmed for one of his challenges. And most seems like they are trying to get their one minute of fame on the show's back. Really....models who complain that to be kept waiting is "unprofessional." How many times has she really been kept waiting during some cattle call? But she got face time on the show for getting to tell Magna off. The models were being uncooperative, they had more to gain by being unprofessional and deliberately bad with more TV time for how bad they were. Deutsch had everything to gain by rejecting both teams' efforts for being a "first" and therefore nothing the Donald's apprentices could be good enough for him. If I were Trump I wouldn't do this again. The City obviously does not appreciate him, the team members "quit" for their fifteen minutes of fame, challenge participants roll their eyes, mug for the cameras, and generally misbehave, and Trump can't even get respect from people he's giving millions of advertising dollars to.

[Jeff]

Interesting comments from a number of people here. I missed the show, but saw the video clips on Yahoo! I'm surprised that no one has commented on The Donald asking Chris if he was not a homosexual. Some thought the gay ending of Magna was a shock, but I was totally blown away by Donald's question. Don't people get sued for that question in the business world? Then the Yahoo! video clip showed the reaction of Erin and Michael shaking their heads in disagreement when Chris said he was not a homosexual. Was that NBC editing that they think he was gay, or something else?

As much as Lex's point that Kristen missed the point of team is correct, I don't agree with how he came to it. With both teams in there at the same time, they could have easily assumed that at least one from each team might go. No one really knew for sure what could happen as this was a first for the show to have both teams in the boardroom. The only rule that The Donald has keep throughout the three seasons is that the winning PM from the week prior is exempt. Audrey and Tana's attack on Kristen was a good call to make sure that they were not the ones to go home. Magna's "We Are Family" speeches at first made me think "What the..." but it was a smart move to show that the team stuck together, which was the deciding factor in firing Kristen. The Donald said that Kristen couldn't hold the team together.

By the way, for those that did watch the show, did NBC actually show Craig talking in any scenes? Has Kendra said anything since her comments in the first boardroom? Why can't Chris just talk calmly without blowing up all the time in the boardroom?

[PM]

Thank you for pointing out your last questions. I am annoyed that Craig had not even talked at all so far, and Kendra didn't step up and speak up in the cucumber porn ad, even though she complained about the ad. Craig, Kendra, Tana, Tara, Alex...Seems like there are a lot of Jen M type quiet safe playing/ boring candidates with no personality this season. Michael, Chris and Stephanie are lousy candidates. Erin, Bren, John, Angie and Audrey should be in the final 4.

[PM]

Alex was a wuss in episode 1 during the boardroom. He looked shaken when he was chosen in the boardroom. In contrast, I like Brens sincerity as saying he was scared to death to go to the boardroom. I also like Erin's confidence in the boardroom and willingness to step up to the plate.

[Lex]

Jeff,

re: the boardroom expectations - excellent point. It wasn't clear how Donald would handle the double-boardroom. However, in past boardrooms Donald has demonstrated the value of loyalty to your team through his firing decisions, he has also indirectly emphasised the value of deflection of attention. This boardroom session was the perfect opportunity to demonstrate both skills simultaneously.

Net Worth suffered because as a team they didn't demonstrate either skill effectively.

re: Silence - some of this is likely due to editing. Each candidate does "testimonials", editing decides who's is used each week... In general a lot of airtime reflects how at risk, or how key, the candidates is. If these guys are running "under the radar", chances are they'll be sticking around for a little while.

e.g. Michael didn't get a lot of screen time last week, so by the time the task was over, I was pretty sure he was staying.

[Lost Highway]

After Chris insisted that he wasn`t a homosexual the camera immediately pans to other cast members and also to Caroline Kepcher.Their expressions/reactions are Hilarious. ((LOL))

Chris Shelton needs to take some Anger Management Classes.In 2 seperate episodes we see him flipping out in the Boardroom. Chris you`re freaking people out.Chill out.Take a pill or something.

The Donald fired Kristen from The Networth losing Team.He also should have fired someone from The Magna losing Team.Fair is Fair.Losing is Losing.

Yes I took your suggestion and went to Brian McDowell`s website.Yes I hovered above his images.Totally bizzare.It reminds me of the movies "Me,Myself And Irene" and "The Dark Half." After his bad behavior on Episode 2 and now this double image thing on his site, how and why does he expect to be respected and taken seriously as a businessman? This dude has an ego the size of Texas.He has shown he is terrible leader with next to no respect for his fellow team members.

[Tara]

I started following this show about 1/2 way through the Season 1 and this was BY FAR the WORST episode ever!!! These people are not working together, someone is always bucking up thinking they know it all. It just seems like NOBODY clicks on these teams. Although it was good to say "bye-bye" to the crude, self-centered, "do it MYSELF" Kristen, I can't wait to see Michael leave.
I agree with the fact that the only ones you see testimonials from are the targets for that particular show. We will be seeing more of these other folks soon enough.
Sometimes you have to ask yourself. . . who is making selections for this show???

[hutch]

About the homosexual thing: I got that Trump asked "the question" because Chris was having such an overreaction. I think Trump was mildly teasing him to take heat off the situation, but Chris took him too seriously and basically revealed what a homophobe he is. That won't get anyone into today's business organizations, a blatant prejudice. When the team all shook their heads, it was over Chris's inappropriateness in reacting to Trump's mild inquiry that had a derisive tone to it, like, "So I take it you aren't gay by your over-the-top reaction to the gay angle in the commercial." Chris hung himself on that one, he'll be gone just for being so inappropriate, which is what all the head shaking was going on. No one thinks Chris is gay, just wildly inappropriate. They, and Carolyn, were openly disapproving Chris's behavior. Frankly, I felt that if Trump fired one of Chris's team it might be interpreted as "gay-bashing," an extremely slippery slope. But the inability of Kristen's team to keep it together made the decision for him. But I have to admit, Audrey gets no points for telling Trump she'd fire Kristen over someone from the other team. Talk about blatant disloyalty. That was a brilliant political maneuver, but only that it let Trump out of having to handle the "gay" situation. He may recognize her for the way she got him out of a bad situation by favoring her at a later date, or get her later for being so disloyal.

[Ron E]

What few people seem to be mentioning is the PRODUCTION VALUE of the Net Worth spot. Sure, the idea was uninspired but in addition to that is the fact that this is one of the most amateurish short videos I've ever seen produced with professional equipment.

The photography was poor, the running looked laughably fake (and not in a clever, satirical way), the composition was hideous and the transition effects reminded me of a high school student's attempts to learn pre-loaded video editing software. All in all it had the look and feel of a high schooler's personal project shot with home equipmment and his/her friends.

The only thing which made this whole scenario more absurd was Kristen, at the end, saying "I know I did a good job".

I have to wonder if this was scripted. I cannot believe a successful professional could truthfully sing her own accolades over this abomination.

[Lost Highway]

Bill Rancic was a guest on Dennis Miller last Friday night and he made the excellent point that both Teams should have hired Professional Directors for the 30 second Dove commercials.Bill also said that both Networth and Magna Teams had the money to do this.

[Tara]

I have to agree with hutch on the whole issue with Chris. . . you nailed it!!
In my opinion Audrey was thinking ahead, Kristen sucks . . . and makes it harder on the team to work together. So why not point fingers at her?

[Tall_Texan]

It was obvious from the motel episode that Angie and Audrey had no love for Kristen and wanted to see her gone ASAP. I think some of the smart members from both teams thought "this commercial sucks but I'm just going to do my part and hope they can the PM".

Other than Michael and Chris the obvious cuts have been made and soon we'll start to see what becomes of the more quiet ones.

[Holland]

Chris is so rude and crude, like a mini version of Brian. The quiet ones are way too quiet, why are thy even in the show? Fire them all.

[Joe Torpey]

Kirsten was fired because Trump couldn't fire another College graduate and have four of them gone in the first 4 weeks of the show. The NW team came up with an infinitely better presentation that Magna (even though Mafna's wasn't very good). Mark my words. The untimate apprentice will be one of the Magna team, as miserable as they are. Trump values higher education and will not select a NW team member as the ultimate winner. Both teams are annoying and the show is very quickly becoming a big bore. Since he is going to put Martha on as soon as she gets out of jail, it it obvious to me that Trump has done what he should have done after having to choose Kelly as the Apprentice in the last go around. Trump fired himself and will blame Martha Stewart when this boring fiasco is ultimately cancelled. FYI, I am an MBA, CFP, CPA.

[JoeN]

Where do they get all these people ? Supposedly successful ones but limited display of character and leadership. Or is the show losing its flair? Is this how professionals behave in the real world? Just look at Audrey, classic example of a finger pointer who got her way. I am only a high school student but Im not seeing anything close to positive traits from this zoo. Bren may come close and Danny a victim of circumstanze; the rest are a shame. For a change lets fire Trump and replaced by, lets say, Billy Clinton or Danny Devito. What say you, guys?