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24 November 2004

Decision Time - 3 Hour Season Finale Event With Live Reveal!

The final two tasks are underway as the remaining two candidates battle it out to be Donald Trump's next apprentice. But each one faces huge obstacles during their respective task: Trump is directly involved in missteps at both a polo match and an NBA charity game, and a Tony Bennett performance causes a last minute scramble. This all leads up to the final LIVE boardroom showdown where someone will hear the words "You're Hired."

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SPECULATION

Jennifer M. will take on Kelly in the final.

Jennifer M. will easily beat Kelly and become the new Apprentice 2

WHO WILL BE BACK ON DEC 16?

Any Spoilers or Speculations as to Which of the former Apprentice candidates will Donald Trump bring back to help or hinder the final 2 candidates on Dec 16.

KELLY, KEVIN, AND JENNIFER M.

I believe that the two finalists will come from the following pool of three candidates:

Kelly, Kevin, and Jennifer M.

how do i enter for the taping of the finale, please let me know.

I won't hire Jen, she is too fraudulent and conniving.

How does this website get this advanced information?? (As in, how do you know all the tasks and the show's finale?) Are you an NBC insider?

re: how do we get the advanced info... we dig. Actually NBC has a media section on their site where they post the info on upcoming airings and press releases about their shows NBC.com. Any advanced info we post here is confirmed there before we post it.

To answer the "Are you an NBC insider?" question directly - no I am not. (There's really no "we"... I'm just one of those annoying business people who talk like everything is a team effort.)
I'm an entrepreneur who got hooked on Apprentice last season and wanted to discuss the business lessons demonstrated in the implementation of each task. Sadly, in my opinion, that element of the show is missing this season because the strategy, planning and implementation of the tasks themselves are getting so little attention.

I'm saying Sandy will be in the final 2. I liked the way she stood up to everyone in that last boardroom. Trump looked amused, so I'll bet he likes her spunk enough to keep her in for the final 2.

I took a tour shuttle bus last month in NYC, and when we passed Trump Tower everyone wanted to go in. We all started to talk about the show. Back then Sandy wasn't so strong so everyone was saying Kelly and Jenn for the final 2. Even the bus driver had an opinion. I'm sticking with Sandy though the odds are against me.
In case your in New York they had a great tour. tour
http://www.newyorkpartyshuttle.com/

Hey,

Andy is a great guy and you stupid trump should not fire him for no reason.

Fuck you trump

Poor Andy and His Pathetic Two Supporters!

You are Known by the Company of Supporters You Get!

Andy's two supporters have only this to say in his defense:

Supporter #1 (Karyn | November 29, 2004 06:30 PM);
"Hey, Andy is a great guy and you stupid trump should not fire him for no reason."

Supporter #2 (Anonymous | November 29, 2004 06:31 PM): "Fuck you trump".

Now, You Can See Why Andy Did Not Survive Past Episode 2 and Was Battered to Death by Sandy!

Poor Andy and His Pathetic Two Supporters!

Poor Andy and His Pathetic Two Supporters!

You are Known by the Company of Supporters You Get!

Andy's two supporters have only this to say in his defense:

Supporter #1 (Karyn | November 29, 2004 06:30 PM);
"Hey, Andy is a great guy and you stupid trump should not fire him for no reason."

Supporter #2 (Anonymous | November 29, 2004 06:31 PM): "Fuck you trump".

Now, You Can See Why Andy Did Not Survive Past Episode 12 and Was Battered to Death by Sandy!

Poor Andy and His Pathetic Two Supporters!

damn you jen! hurry up and get fired already

To conclude Apprentice 2, of all the men in the past, Kelly is the best. kevin, Andy and Wes are second, the rest are all lousy...Chris complained and did nothing on at least three episodes(fashion, dog and bridal). Raj shows that he had no common sense in his last two tasks. The worst of all men is bradford for being a spineless and slimy sexist.
Of all the women, Sandy and Ivana are the best, Jen M is second, Elizabeth is the third, even though she was a weak leader, but she had more common sense. The rest of the women are all lousy.

RANKING OF APPRENTICE 2

1, Kelly
2, Kevin
3, Sandy
4, Ivana
5, Andy
6, Wes
7, Jen M
8, Chris
9, Pamela
10, John
11, Elizabeth
12, Maria
13, Raj
14, Stacy R
15, Stacie J
16, Rob
17, Jen C
18, Bradford

If The Donald's hiring executives are watching this show on a weekly basis, they'll be WISE not to have the Snake Woman Jen be in the final two. I'm not a fan of Ivana, but she's right when she said Jen does not have a creative bone in her body. Jen likes to ride on other people's coattails and is quite sneaky. I'd like to see either Ivana or Jen get eliminated this week. Final two HAVE to be Kevin and Kelly. My choice for the winner is Kevin. He's got the smarts, leadership, ethics, and respect of his peers.

In episode 7, if Jen M had picked Sandy instead of Elizabeth. Apex might have won task 7, 8, 9 and 10. It would have helped Jen M and hurted Kelly chance to be the next apprentice.

In Mosaic, Wes made a good decision of keeping Andy and Kelly in episode 7. Stacy R, Elizabeth and Maria the three liabilities would be ousted pretty quickly.

The final 2 are going to be Ivana and Jen M. (I know it for a fact.)

Jackie,

Whom are you trying to fool? Well, you are atleast having some fun with that emphatice statement of yours. I do not grudge your having some fun.

Observations following the M&M episode:

1) Kelly is still the front runner. He played it cool this time...nothing to loose. Interesting that he was honest when asked who HE would fire....he said Ivana. I think Trump would have not liked it if he decided to make a power play and tarnish Kevin's stellar image. Kelly is 3-0 as PM....

2) Ivana...it was bound to happen...Ivana is a good, smart and creative person to have on your team. But she has absolutely no management skills. Even worse, she has NO people skills. Even more DANGEROUS than that, she is a potential public relations nightmare or lawsuit waiting to happen. There is NO way Ivana could be trusted to lead a company and have people follow her leadership. She was a fighter though...I would have to give her the title of BEST WOMAN this season.

3) Jen M...the BIGGEST question mark this season. People either love or hate her. Most of us do not like her. Has never really failed miserably. Has also never taken the bull by the horns and willed her team to success either. Then there is the fact that she fraudulently took credit for somethng she did not do.

She has NEVER volunteered or stepped up. Even in this episode there were only 2 of them and nobody wanted the PM!!! Like, who cares, if you win you are in the final 4 and if you loose, your're BOTH going to the big room. Even in that circumstance, you could clearly see Jen POINTING to Sandy and saying..."you want it"? Even in the episode where she could have been the PM with NO risk, she ducked. This lady does not want to LEAD. Sandy, at least stepped up.

4) Sandy...OK so they won. Big deal....this episode was only about "which woman gets fired, Ivana or the blonde bombshells twins". Sandy has shown more spunk, determination AND leadership skills than Jen...but the interview stage will knock her out. Her lack of education will finally catch up to her and her limited entrepreneurial experience of running a bridal salon will not be enough.

She tried to compare herself to Bill. As far as I remember, Bill does have a university degree and could have been accepted at any law school with his grades. They are NOT similar at all.

I'd rank her as the SECOND best woman nonetheless. Maybe even close to Ivana as the best...

BUT I AM HOPING THAT TRUMP WILL RESIST THE TEMPTATION....THE TEMPTATION THAT HE MAY HAVE TO AVOID ANOTHER FINAL 2 FEATURING TWO MEN.

The truth is that....

5) Nobody...nobody deserves the chance to go up against Kelly more than Kevin. Kevin is also undefeated as PM. I think Kelly has better schooling than anybody (Wharton Business School, MBA, law school). He gave up his football career for his brother...

I also think that this episode saw further evidence that Kevin is a straight shooter. Much like Bill last season, he has people skills. More so than Kelly. Kelly is smooth BUT I see more people working WITH Kevin than with Kelly.

Like Bill, Kevin never felt the need to talk shit about people or put them down or belittle them.
He builds consensus.

Kelly and Kevin both deserve the Final 2...then it is as Naveen says "It's all about who wins the task"


We all have our favourites though, and here is hoping than Kevin is the next Apprentice.


The tasks are getting weak. Does trump really want to hire people who can flog candy bars!?! I don't necessarily like Ivana, but she does highlight a problem with some of the tasks on the show. Caroline gave her a huge opening when she asked Ivana what she was selling. Ivana should have replied, "the same thing as Jen and Sandy."

This would be a profound answer that highlights the weaknesses of some of these tasks. How about 24 hours to study the production line, then handed control of the production line workforce for a shift. QA could be monitored for the shift, and the team with the lowest defects would win. The production line staff could be instructed not to do anything other than what they are told to do by the team leaders. I guess the problem is that this real business challenge is not as fun as watching candy crash to the floor, people wiping out, and Jen and Sandy dressing like "hookers" (Ivana's comment) to see chocolate.

Ivana's fatal mistake is that Kevin and Kelly are just too strong. However, focusing on Jen was a major mistake. She wasn't even in the boardroom. If anything, she should have highlighted that Kevin has been in a rush to judgement and oversteps boundaries. She should have listed what his mistakes were, anything, any angle or weakness would have been better than attacking Jen.

Oh, well, Jen survives another day. At the end of the day Sandy has shown a lot of spunk and has defended herself well. The interview itself might be a tough hurdle to overcome.

Ultimately I would love to see Sandy and Kelly in final, but I think it will probably wind up as Kelly and Kevin. Such a tough call. Stylistically they are not as different from each other as Kwame or Bill. Kelly is a cool operator, but got burnt by George with a salvo about "underestimating the other team." Kevin on the otherhand sweat profusely at Levi and made tactical errors about the contractors earlier on, and pricing this past week. Close call. At best Sandy is a project to be sent to finishing school to have the credentials to operate at the President level.

Jordan,
Great analysis, I agree Sandy and Kelly are the strongest two left. However, I can't blame Ivana totally in the last task. Can you think of any possible strategies for Apex Kelly and Kevin to outsell the Mosaic ladies. Can Apex pull the charity gimmick again for the third times?????

I also agree Kevin was almost fired twice or three times. Remember Kevin and Wes' bad pricing for the fashion task. DT revealed on wednesday that it was a tough call to fire John, that means he thought of firing Kevin instead of John and Andy in that early episode.

UPDATE FOLLOWING EPISODE 13

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY FACED THE FINAL BOARDROOM IN APPRENTICE 2 SERIES?

Fourteen of the eighteen candidates have been fired from the Apprentice 2 show so far!

Rob – Made one appearance and Donald Trump fired him in Week1! Since he failed to make any useful contribution to the team, he secured the dubious distinction of being fired by Donald Trump in the very first episode itself.

Bradford - Made one appearance and Donald Trump could not stand him in Week2! He had won as the project manager of episode 1 and had earned an exemption from getting fired in episode 2. But, Bradford opted to forego his exemption in the boardroom. Donald Trump thought that Bradford made a life threatening decision in giving up his hard earned exemption and fired him in episode 2.

Stacie J. – Made two consecutive appearances and Donald Trump told her to go and open a super subway magic shop in Week3! She played ball with the magic ball, alienated her team mates with her antics, and was sacked by Donald Trump because he could not afford to have a dysfunctional team member in his company.

Jennifer C. – Made two appearances and Donald Trump gave her marching orders in Week4! Her racial diatribe against a particular religious community not only alienated her from her teammate Stacey R., got her a firing from the Apprentice 2 TV series, but also cost her real job in her real life as well.

Pamela – Made two appearances and Donald Trump showed her the super skilled doors in Week5! She acted dictatorially and alienated her team members. Donald Trump fired her in episode 5 for losing the respect of her team members.

John – Made one appearance and Donald Trump bid him good bye in Week6!

Stacie R. – Made three appearances and Donald Trump told her that he had enough of her in Week7!

Elizabeth – Made three appearances and Donald Trump told her not to see him again in Week8! She was not even given the chance to bring in her team members to the final boardroom. Donald Trump saw no necessity of it and fired Elizabeth in the initial boardroom meeting itself.

Raj – Made one appearance and Donald Trump advised him to go and find his date in Week9!
Raj, a self proclaimed real estate expert, bungled as a project manager in the very task that involved renovating an existing building and add maximum value with $20,000 investment. He, much against the cardinal rule and central truth in the real estate business that more bedrooms mean more value for the real estate, recklessly converted a four bedroom house into a three bedroom house and made a shoddy job of fitting a new bathroom in the building. Raj lost to Sandy very badly. And, Sandy is a wedding planner in her real life. Raj also failed to get the phone number of Donald Trump's secretary Robin. Raj continued his efforts and was able, according to his own personal claim, to get the phone number of Robin. Raj, unlike Napoleon Bonaparte and Winston Churchill, his inspirational heroes in his real life, lost the war but won a small victory in a small battle for securing the phone number of Robin, the secretary of Donald Trump.

Chris – Made one appearance and Donald Trump reminded him that Chris has a wife waiting for him back home in Week10! He threw up his hand very early in the episode as a project manager, lost respect of his team members, lost the task badly to Sandy inspired and Kelly led team, made strategic mistakes in the boardroom, and lost his Apprenticeship hopes in episode 10.

Wes – Made two appearances and Donald Trump told him to go and suffer a cab ride with Maria on his way back home in Week11! Wes, the project manager, sheepishly surrendered to the dictates of Maria, an ordinary member of his team. When Wes approached Maria during the task, she shouted at him angrily and asked him not to interfere when she was doing something. She told him to shove off (Actually, her words were: "Back Off"). Wes meekly surrendered to Maria's dictates, failed the team task, became a laughing stock before his other team members, Andy and Sandy, cut a sorry figure in the final boardroom, and was told to go home sharing a cab ride with his arch nemesis Maria.

Maria – Made three appearances and Donald Trump told her to go and ruin Wes’ cab ride back home in Week11!

Andy – Made record five appearances and but was pounded upon, out-dueled, and out-debated by Sandy in Week12!

Ivana – Spun her Levi Jean Close Fit Product catalogue to great fame and edged her name in golden letters on Pepsi Edge in the previous episodes. From a very weak candidate in the first few episodes, Ivana inched her way up slowly, steadily, and impressively with her solid contributions to the success of her teams, creative ideas, mathematical calculation prowess, combativeness, and sharp debating skills. She was the project leader in the episode 13 and noticed to her consternation that Kevin, his closest friend, proved a very ineffective and sub par performer in her team. If she wanted to survive in episode 13, despite losing to the other team consisting of Jennifer M. and Sandy, she had Kevin available to sacrifice in the boardroom. But, she had developed her enmity of Jennifer M. to such an obsessively wretched level, that she somehow, hook or crook, and no matter what win the task for her team. She laid it all on the table and even sacrificed her personal dignity in the process to register a win for her team. But, she received no good help from Kelly, and was let down badly by Kevin, Ivana lost to her bitter enemy Jennifer M. But, because of the her gambit of use sex to sell her candy bar, she lost all the residual respect that Carolyn had for her, and Donald Trump sneered at her and told her, in no mistakable terms, that he cannot give her a job in his company!

Sandy – Made three appearances before the final boardroom. Started out a weak performer but has now firmly established as a highly credible, capable, and versatile contestant who will give it as good or better as she gets in her continued upward march and quest to become the Apprentice 2.

Kevin – Made four appearances and has mixed results in teams of his performance in the Apprentice 2 series so far! He, however, won both the times that he led his team as a project manager. Except in a few episodes, especially in episode 13, where did not make good contributions as a team member for the success of the team, he has made solid contributions to the team’s task in other episodes.

Jennifer M. – Made two appearances so far in the final boardroom and has moved a notch or two from her very high pedestal earlier because of her misguided, almost universally disparaged, attempt of wrongly taking personal credit for Ivana's creative idea of a rotating wheel catalog for Levi Jeans and forming an unholy, duplicitous, alliance with Andy in episode 12 to hasten the exit of Sandy from the show. But, they are only minor blips in the otherwise strong credentials and stellar performance of Jennifer M., so far, in the Apprentice 2 series. Jennifer M., is still a very highly rated candidate to win the coveted the Apprentice 2 title.

Kelly – Made no appearances so far in the final boardroom and is all success, right moves, and great achievements so far. He is the strongest candidate, with proven leadership credentials and great individual talent, in the fray right now. But, the earlier big gap between Kelly and the other candidates is slowly and surely narrowing down and Kelly may have quite an arduous task to pull it all in the final two episodes! But, Kelly still remains the most touted candidate to win it all in the Apprentice 2 TV series.

Four Remain Strong!

Two Episodes Remain!

Each of the remaining four candidates has a real chance to become the new Apprentice 2 in the year 2004!

Sandy, Kevin, Jennifer M., and Kelly: These Four are the Superstars of the Apprentice 2 NBC TV Series! They have all come afar but, any one of them can win it all!

KEVIN LACKS MORRALITY AND INTEGRITY. SANDY NEEDS AN EDUCATION. KELLY IS JUST RECKLESS, JEN IS MY FINAL CHOSE.

JEN WINS, what you say is just not true?

Are there any white people on earth? Do you pretend that there are any white people that currently live on planet earth or for that matter, have ever lived in the continuing history of the millions of years of mankind. The planet earth has never been inhabited by any human beings whose skin colors have ever been white.

There are some substances that have always been white: For example, the teeth of all animals on earth, including all human beings. Again, the animal and human pus is white. Milk is white whether it is human milk, or goat milk, or cow milk, or dog milk, or donkey milk. Cotton, that is grown in most parts of the world, is white. Another example is the bone, be the bone of a dog, the bone of a donkey, the bone of a monkey, the bone of a cat, the bone of a tiger, the bone of a chinese, the bone of an african, the bone of an european, the bone of an asian, the bone of an australian, or the bone of a rhinoceros. Again, the trunk of an elephant is white. May, there could be other animals whose trunk is also white. But, the human skin has never been white, unless the natural color of a human skin, turns into white because of pigmentation problem or contracting of different kinds of diseases.

Teeth is white. Do you think there are any human beings whose skin color is white. But, all human beings have white teeth.

Bone is white. Do you think there are any human beings whose skin color is bonish. But, all human beings have white bones.

Milk is white. Do you think there are any human beings whose skin color is milkish. But, all animals, including cows, donkeys, dogs, goats, and human beings produce milk.

Pus is white. Do you think there are any human beings whose skin color is pus like. But, the pus that gets formed in all human beings and all other animals produce white pus.

Cotton is white. Do you think there have ever been any human beings whose skin color is of the color of cotton. But, all cotton grown everywhere on earth is white.

All human skin is non-white. when you talk of non-whites, you are talking of all human beings. Because in every part of the world, human skin is non-white, it is never white, unless it is some kind of skin disorder or disease. The only case where in a human being can ever be white is if that human being produces pus in every part or pore of its, his, or her skin.

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    Jennifer M.
    "I have my training under my belt after being an attorney for five years, and I'm ready to get into the business world."
  • Sandy - Fired 16th PM:2 BR:2/14
    Sandy"Mr. Trump wants a young entrepreneur who is feisty and tough and would fit into his organization. I think I'd be a perfect fit."
  • Kevin - Fired 15th PM:2 BR:2/14
    Kevin"I'm the smartest and most talented and most qualified. This is a job interview, and job interviews are about getting the best candidate."
  • Ivana - Fired 14th PM:2 BR:7/13
    Ivana"I'm an intersection of personality, brains and sass." --- Many people say it should have happened sooner, but Ivana got fired for losing too much, and for taking of her skirt for a sale.
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    Andy"Solutions that really drive companies come from younger people." --- The Pepsi Challenge one would think the youngest would have the Edge. But not this time. Andy's debating skills were lost when it came down to street-fighting and that's why he got fired.
  • Wes - Fired 12th PM:2 BR:2/11
    Wes"The Trump organization needs someone with balance, which I have." --- In Episode 11 Wes delegated and defered too much responsibility, and when things started going wrong he sat back and waited for things to straighten themselves out instead of standing up and getting everyone back on track.
  • Maria - Fired 11th PM:1 BR:3/11
    Maria"I try to keep very positive and make sure I'm not tearing down the very people I need to get the job done"--- Maria has been at risk for quite some time now. Episode 11 was just an intensified version of the strikes against her: mismanagement of time and resources, fighting with her team and mis-interpretting the clients needs.
  • Chris - Fired 10th PM:2 BR:1/10
    Chris"[Trump] has a lot of people working for him with deep pedigrees, and sometimes you need somebody who's going to give you a different angle." --- Chris saw the writing on the wall - "lose this challenge, get fired." Once the Episode 10 challenge was announced he saw failure and couldn't shake it off.
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    Raj"It impressed me very much to see the caliber of my competition. But I'm better." >--- Raj, Raj, Raj. Chris handed you his head, and Trump pointed it out. In Episode 9, Raj need to be more cutthroat and was fired because he left himself open for it.
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    Elizabeth"This show seemed like it was made for me, like everything I've done prepared me for this moment." --- Elizabeth waffled her way right into the boardroom inEpisode 8. In a room full of type-A personalities she couldn't, or wouldn't, make a decision and stick with it.

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